Ep.6 Kentya | LevelsFM Music Production Podcast - YouTube
[Music] [Music] what is your name and or your alias that was us starting sorry i didn't realize no we're not doing it again oh okay sorry um my name is kentya and i go by kentya um i'm in a band called stella soul and yeah that's me
i love it yeah um how did you come up with the name stella soul by the way we always had the word soul in it it just took us a while to get to the part before it we were like throwing ideas and then i think one day i think i said stella and then i had a friend that i think spoke latin i believe and they were like you know that means star and i was like perfect stellar soul it is because i was born a star so i love it um where do you currently reside what's your uh what's your current hometown i know the answer but just for just for our listeners here i live in vancouver british columbia so cool so do i um you ready for the lightning round let's go i'm ready always love it what's the best song of all time man in the mirror michael jackson first one that came to my head why oh god i don't know i just i love the
whole thing from the start to the beginning i love the meaning behind the song i love singing the song and i love michael jackson are you a lyrics first melody first or rhythm first person i you know it takes me a while to understand lyrics like i'm always like listening for the song at first and then once i like take in the lyrics later i'm always like oh my god but especially in hip hop like little wayne does a ton of metaphors and five years of listening to emily i'll still like pick up a metaphor i've never heard and be like whoa he said that so i think i bobbed my head for some ways like jam into the track before the lyrics that's so awesome uh who has the best voice of all time let's go with whitney houston um my favorite vocal performance is whitney houston's star spangled banner in the night oh the best that's the best the best um who is your favorite musical group or band
of all time for all time or one of them doesn't have to be the most destiny's child why i don't know being a young black girl destiny's child was like the best it was just like oh my god there's three girls that look like me and they're young like i don't know it's just destiny child's the best do you remember the first destiny's child track that you loved it was like the survivor album i loved i love the slow track i can still remember track number 10 emotions but that whole album was fire i'm trying to think of like the first one but that album was like one of my favorite albums cool who would be your dream collaboration keith probably i would like to pretend it would be beyonce but i guess in collab i should say like yes i would love to songwrite for beyonce or alicia keys cool it would be as you as a songwriter and they would perform your your creation or your co-creation i
wouldn't touch the stage with them i'd be like this is yours um laptop or recording studio recording studio why i love the studio i mean the producer can be using a laptop but for me personally i'm not yeah i love the studio i think as a vocalist it's like it's just nice to be in that environment it puts me in a better place is vibe really important to you when you're creating yeah like dim the lights bring some like little lights in there if you want or lamp and i just love the studio way more than a home i always think i'm being too loud for a house because my parents always said i was too loud so in a studio i can be as loud as i want so i love the studio it's great what is your favorite audio effect like delay reverb compression eq probably reverb for me like the second it happens i'm like ah so much better
i sound so much better um i mean i sound decent without it but reverb for me that's great what's your favorite plug-in do you have a favorite plug-in of all time no don't care i blocked out everything i learned in school i'm just like you figure it out for me at this point i can talk the talk of being like put auto-tune on my vocals and put reverb but i'm not going to be like put this this exact reverb on there i don't have that yet but i feel like maybe i should hmm now you gotta i probably should does it interest you you're more interested in creating though right you know i trust i trust a lot of the people i work with though right like that's the other thing like i i can't pretend i'm gonna know a better reverb than they will right maybe like down the road if there was like always the same one my engineer was using i'd be like oh i should probably remember that by now right yeah yeah no that that's a big part of it if you're collaborating with people
and they're good at a certain thing let them do that and then you focus on another aspect of it i was going to pretend to be like the fab filter but i was like i'm totally kidding that's like a that's a company that has a whole bunch of plugins but it's still a great answer exactly great answer great company shout out fabfilter uh pro q pro l as well both great um last question in the uh lightning round which song sounds great wait which song or songs which song sounds great um oh my god what let me say it again which song sounds great literally sounds the exact same what you said you're looking for a one song correct what's a great sounding song um freedom beyonce and kendrick lamar love it why oh my god it's so good it's this type of
song i will scream sing in the car it just grows it builds it builds it builds and then just beyonce is a crazy vocalist but then also when kendrick lamar comes in it's so good it just the mix sounds good the song sounds good you get goosebumps if you really like like that style of music and stuff and just the drums get bigger and i just like love that type of stuff or anything with a good possible choir too anything with a good what gospel card yeah that's that's great so draw my pen um i'm gonna need that so let's just pretend this isn't happening um that was the lightning round what did you think of the lightning round the lightning round is like my favorite type of round i'm sad it's at the beginning it means you're going to make me now get deep it just gets you you fired up right it gets you reminds me of um family viewed the fast track part at the very end yeah yeah it was at the end though right i put it i always think i'd win all the money for that i'm like
i got it yeah that was a good show or is a good show is it still on still on is it um [Music] so let's go back in time where are you from you live in vancouver now where are you from um i was born and raised in saskatoon saskatchewan my whole life but my parents are from eritrea which is in the east coast of africa so that's my background so i always follow those traditions no matter what but born and raised saskatoon saskatchewan very close to ethiopia is that what's the biggest influence in the biggest country next to eritrea yeah yeah we're right beside it and we're right by the red sea yeah we used to be like part of ethiopia until 91 and then we became our own independent country shout out eritrea shouts out shouts out and the eritrean community are very i mean they're a very big part of your life but it's a very close-knit community right yeah yeah yeah for sure
especially in saskatoon like yeah like i knew every single person now when i go there there's so many new families and i don't know them i feel like when they see me they're like who is she and i'm like well who are you you're in my city but no yeah yeah it's a it's a good community there like any wedding we're all at the same wedding and stuff like that so that's so cool love them well maybe that uh will be a part of this answer for this next question tell us about one of your early musical experiences when you were a kid like it's not error train music it's the motown era my dad loved all of that like stevie wonder otis writing like al green jackson five like all those guys like that's kind of what i grew up on i can always sing like aretha franklin songs or eddie james songs and people are like why do you know this and i'm like look my dad's tasted music was not bad i'm surprised he shocked i'm in the music industry because
like every time in his car i'd like to throw those cds in i used to like burn cds but if i was in his car i'd throw in his cds um so i just like always listened to like that music and i still do to this day like i was listening to stevie wonder right before this so it's the best that's great i agree i love it i i missed it when i was growing up but i got into it after i got into production and uh it keeps coming back motown's a big influence on a lot of people it's so great no it's like seriously some of the best it is some of the best music honestly it's and you know what i love about the music there's like little mistakes in them sometimes but like i can't barely hear it but when i did hear it you're like why is this my favorite part now like you know we're such perfectionists now because we can be in the music industry but sometimes it's like man i wish i was part of that era instead because i would love to rock my phobia be in disco land go to the clubs and that's how it was and the stage would be a live band performing that type of music now you
know it's like i i love that yeah you're right i love the mistakes is my favorite part of motown yeah and and even though the engineering mistakes like the vocal clipping and the the mix so you hear a little metronome in the back and you're like well you're part of the song now yeah yeah i think that's what that's part of what makes music great and exciting for me is is rawness and and uh vibe and feel um do you remember the first time you heard your voice recorded and then played back to you yeah or one of the first times professionally like no in a studio no i'm thinking more of like when you were a kid or it might be professionally when you're in a studio do you remember like playing around with a tape recorder or anything oh i remember like kind of yeah i think the thing for me is like i started like my true musical like journey at age 25 so like first time like being in a studio and like like you know being a vocalist for
people it like threw me off because you sound so weird the first time but like being younger yes i could like phones weren't really around yet but i remember when you could record on a phone and i was like able to i was like oh that kind of sounds weird like you just always think you sound better without it yeah um and then you like feel weird even especially in the studio like i said like that first time you know in school i was like listening to myself i was like i swear i'm better than this like and then you start to get more comfortable and stuff like that but i kind of like i didn't listen to myself like that until like a while i just used to sing out loud and everyone used to tell me like you're so good and i was like am i okay cool yeah um do you play any instruments no i did like when i was younger i played saxophone for six years but that got stolen in high school so that stopped that but yeah no way yeah from where the school like somebody like came in and like took it but yeah imagine telling your foreign parents that one
yeah that was a scary one what was it alto tenor yeah yeah and it's crazy because i always wanted to play saks and i remember in grade six they're like okay we have too many saxophone players you're gonna have to play the clarinet now kent and i was like no i actually don't want to though like i was like i don't want to play the clarinet now and they were like oh lucky for you somebody dropped out you could play socks and i was like yeah i was it was saks or nothing right but it's like the fact that i couldn't choose two was like the shitty part i can pass right you set the bar now that's fine i let the i let each audience each guest determine that okay and and you have now determined that which is totally fine most people do okay i was like i didn't have to i think i have two clean episodes right now roster um doesn't matter to me that's the what they said that's the crappy that's the crappy part yeah don't backpedal um commit um i wanted to play tenor sax but it was
too heavy to walk back and forth to school with so i switched to alto oh my gosh i remember they like make you hold it to make sure you can actually hold it and i'm like aren't you supposed to teach me how to totally you're gonna give me one try right now like come on so six years is a long time and i know it's during a part of our lives when we're not really focused on learning music theory at that age but did any of that did you keep any of that does any of that still inform your decisions or your songwriting today yeah not like my songwriting but like i can play piano like one-handed like i can read easy sheet music like give me the christmas book and i can do a one hand and give you the melody but i can't do both but i can read the sheet music easily like i'm like like you know like right that's cool [Music] because i know how to read it so like music theory that the the first step of music theory is easy for me right but so so this is something i've so i've you
know i've shot a few episodes of this now and and definitely some things uh keep recurring and one of the things that keeps coming up is knowing music theory versus not knowing music theory because both of them have their advantages and just like you said you you know you're probably right in the middle somewhere where you can hammer out a melody on a piano but if you had a if somebody was like all right explain me this piano and play a beethoven song on it you'd be like get away from me um so what are your thoughts on on music theory do you do you do you value it as one of your tools do you wish you knew more are you gonna you learn more or are you happy with the the limited amount you know now so like i'm in a band and i'm the vocalist and then there's james who's like insane on what he knows with music theory and sometimes i think it's not a good thing to know that much like it's almost like too intense in how you think
about music right well like i'm happy again with people who are good at what they do they do what they can do right like if i'm coming in as your vocalist i'm not looking to come and be like can we make the song in g but like there are a couple keys that i know i like because i've written a few songs that way so i could be like can we maybe try like e flat or like a g or something and you know like the person who's professional or what they do can do what i don't do i think like once i start to pick up piano more and like want to learn it more i'm going to gain some more stuff but like i am happy with what i know and i'm good at what i do and i just hope that who i'm working with is good at what they do because like you can just play me anything and i could probably figure out how to sing to it right but yeah i'm not gonna be able to play the piano i can't play the piano i cannot play the guitar even though there's a guitar right there i just don't play that's so awesome so when when you perform and when you sing and when you you tune your voice to the instruments that are playing you do that all
naturally all by feel yeah all by like it feels like memory because i can like stack my harmonies without help sometimes i will need the help because i'm like oh i can't think of it but my brain like already knows what the harmony is when i sing something so if i yeah i was like i'm gonna do it but i can't right now but you know like i can sing something and then i can like do ooze and stack those oohs if i need to do you visualize it in your mind yeah i don't know it just feels like there's just something that like goes this is your next one and it's like thanks automatically right i think because i've been singing so long and i have always listened to gospel music and motown has a lot of choirs so sometimes you know when you're like driving and you know or listening to music i always sing the background stuff like especially with gospel music there's always this lead singer and i'm always thinking what the choir is saying and i was in choir from like young age till grade 12. and i did church choir not
not black church choir i just did church choir but like you know you gained so much just from like learning about notes and stuff like that within choir and then i feel like that's how i got good at like harmonizing what i have to harmonize because i'm always like oh i'm going to sing the high part because i love the high part in this song but other parts i'm singing the alto part that's great that's that's got to be a huge influence on you is the choir yeah like i think honestly listening to gospel music was probably like why i can do it i bet yeah probably like it was probably like working out like learning that stuff that way yeah or you know how we were talking about lyrics and i'm like oh after five years i pick up a line i kind of did that with like the harmonies inquire in like these gospel songs i would sing it normally but then i would start to hear the other singers and then i'd start singing like that for the next month i start singing like the third and then you know the next time i hear the highs and i'm like three months later i'm singing the soprano alliance now i'm singing like you know the fifths and then i started figuring out just like i can hear it i just started being able to hear it like that that's so cool
that's weird it is weird when you start thinking about it it gets weird but if you don't think about it it's it's totally but if you made me do it on the spot right now i know i messed up you know one of those sometimes like i go in the studio i'm like i got it and then i'm like whoa i didn't whoa play it for me on piano i do not got this right yeah yeah you get inside your head yeah i think a lot of things are like that um do you remember the first album that changed your life like i could say thriller probably michael jackson um michael jackson was just like a big part of my life it feels like i just like i don't know like if my dad's watching it then like that's a big part to me it's like when obama was a president my dad always watched it i felt like obama was my uncle at a point but that's what i felt like with michael jackson it's like i feel like i just like listened to him so much and just like and there were so many different parts
to him there was young michael right like so once i started listening to like jackson 5 and hearing his voice and things like that but i feel like thriller was probably like the album for me it's not the first album i bought because it was probably like you know before my time but it's just thriller was a big time for me do you remember the first album you bought with your own money or maybe it was your parents money but you went and bought it yeah it was britney spears the first one yeah the hit me baby album the one where she's wearing a red t-shirt in the front that was my first album did you love it every day listen to the whole thing in the living room because that's where i could listen to cds my dad's like turn this off and i'm like it's so good that's so awesome um which what was your favorite song on it was it hit me maybe one more time or was there some some some hidden track that were there i can't remember if like lucky i think lucky was on that one too but yeah there
was some like but they were still there was like a lot of big songs off that album it's just like hit me baby was not my like number one because it's like the one that plays on the radio right like once you play a song on the radio for me it's just annoying to me at a point but i feel like lucky was a really good one and then now i'm thinking of other songs by her and i think it's not on that album but there was like i'm not a girl not yet a woman was also a good one what did you think of her as a performer like a dancer was that part of it or was it the songs that you loved she was young and relatable right so it's like i think she was a really good artist i think she had it all i just think like obviously there's a lot of stuff that's happening with her now that it's like scary to think like you know you're like that was that was something we all listened to like as young girls that was that was our homegirl like that was the one like so she was she was she killed it but i i don't know what she went through i don't know what these young celebrities have to go through like
i'm sure all the [ __ ] that justin bieber has to go through like you know people can judge these people but i'm like you have no idea like their mental health is like low like the things we go through is not even comparable right you don't even get to be a person anymore right like at the end of the day like you can't i always say this i never not want to be able to go to 7-eleven and be myself like i don't think justin bieber or britney spears could ever walk into 7-eleven now and not have a camera on their face right right so yeah so she was she was an amazing artist i i just like i start to think about her now and i start to feel bad yeah i think that's true for all people that are in the public eye like that i i definitely wouldn't want that yeah it's like it's scary it's dangerous and nobody's like protecting them you know like there's not a book for fame definitely not yeah yeah what's your favorite instrument like your favorite sounding
instrument or something probably a saxophone oh cool is that what you mean by instrument because obviously sorry i should say drum because i'm not thinking about drums as well but like a drum and saxophone probably okay that's correct do you do you have sex in stella's soul yeah a lot hey i heard your new track yesterday that's awesome did it make you cry it's such a love song it's so great it's so smooth it's like your vocals were great too great production could really hear you the the energy in your voice it was really captured really well yeah it was one i've had this song for a year that's the other thing you have songs for over a year like i've had this song for like almost two years thinking we would release it earlier but we just like released singles every month and that was like one of the ones where i was like let's just wait that's interesting so sometimes i love it when the vocal is very early it's very raw i like the demo because
it's going from the artists memory right to the microphone but i also like it when you have a year to work it out and figure out the bugs and perform it live and change stuff and exercise and exercise and exercise and exercise and then execute so that was one that was like the second part where you you you knew it it was it was the thing is it's been done honestly since the beginning of the year it's just like we've been releasing singles and this was like a slow jam and i was like oh we should have done it obviously in february but then at the same time it was just like one of those things where i'm like i'm just i just want to release at this point like let's just release a ton and then we had some more upbeat ones so we just did them prior and then we still have like a handful of ones that we're just going to release and then like we already have another project for 2022. and for that one we just want to like properly market it and do it well because i don't know just with covid it was just like like people are like what can we do what's what's there to do and it's like
one of those things for me where i was like i'm just gonna release music people can hear us and we'll have a ton of songs out and then we still have more projects but because we've had so much time we've been able to make so much music because we're not playing we're not like wasting time like going around places and not wasting time we just can't go because of cove um and you know things are opening up a little right now i know some people are going on tours and stuff but i just like don't trust what's gonna happen and i just don't wanna like put in all this energy and money to like start something and then stop because if i want to do a tour i want to go all the way to sask and then back it's asking back it's asking back um yeah i agree you get you we have no idea what's gonna happen next so i think putting your eggs in the touring basket is risky i mean it's risky when things are great even yeah exactly life is risky life is risky can you tell us about the moment when you decided whenever it
was however old you were when you decided you actually wanted to do music as a career can you tell us about that feeling in that moment yeah so like i guess it's hard to say because you don't know what careers in music are so you know that's one of the biggest things you know i'm working on now like for other people but i thought my career is singing or being a producer like that's there's no other career in music right there's the stage and only the stage it's how i looked at it i think i always knew i wanted to be on the stage like since age five like what is your dream of singer like always singer like you know i never wrote the teacher the doctor okay i wrote teacher once but i never wrote like anything else um but growing up with you know family that comes from like war and things like that there is only being an engineer a nurse or a doctor like that's like your only that's the only thing you can be so i was like okay i'm gonna pretend to be a lawyer so after school after high school i went to university for like two and a half years um
and i was like just taking classes to like get a degree so you can go sign up for being going into law but then i just like started to realize more and more like i hated university i was like you i hate this class like nothing's hands on like my my class is 200 people in the psychology class like i can't ask i can't ask a question and then later like probably like age 22 or something like i go to so many shows and i remember watching this video of j cole like making a beat in his tour bus and then like calling over his friend and his friend starts playing these keys and i was like that's what i want like i literally want to do that and then i remember seeing a pharrell video pharrell in a studio and i was like okay start like googling like where's schools and now this was probably like age 24 or 23 or whatever um yeah 23 probably and i started like googling like where schools and stuff and i just like knew i didn't want to be in saskatoon it's just not the place for me to like feel like i can grow one as an artist but like one as a black artist to be honest the most like there
was no there is like a little bit of a hip-hop community but it wasn't just like for me like i'm not looking for just hip-hop there's no r b there was nothing like that for me so once i finally like figured out where there's some schools around canada i was like okay oh my god there's production schools like i can learn how to produce i don't know how to be in studios at first i wanted to go to toronto just because that's where a huge community is but i started to think like that's almost too much competition for me and you know me like i'm a go-getter like i'll volunteer and do a ton of stuff but i just didn't know if i could do it there like i was like and i have so much family there so it's a bit distracting so i came and visited vancouver and i was like wow this place is nice like what the hell is this but then i i found like a school online and then i signed up for that and then at like yeah age 24 i decided to go to like a college for it for audio engineering and music production so cool um it's weird right like we know there's places you can go to be a lawyer or a doctor but we're not
really told about music production like being that age and not knowing that you could go to school for music production like why don't we know this why is this not something you know that that people just know inherently why isn't the word out like that because i i know and you know from from so many first-hand experiences how much this can change people's lives for the better like how important but there's not a lot of careers as a producer not everyone's going to make it as producer there's just that's just a fact you know like not everyone has the same hustle on the grind as other people that do you know and um that's the thing so i'm talking about careers but there's so many more careers than just being an artist and and a producer right like i'm part of something called advanced and it's like black professionals across canada and you know i'm meeting so many of these people who are in like these huge chairs like they work for sony music warner music and universal and all
this stuff right but there's people that are accountants in music there's lawyers in entertainment and music you know there's of course the backstage people and the live sound techs and so many more things there's a reps there's managers there's there's more jobs if you can't sing that doesn't mean you can't be in the industry right like and that's the thing that i want more people to be aware of now is like you don't have to just be in this industry just to be a singer and a producer or the rapper like you know what i mean like you can you can have a career in this for sure sorry i'm just writing down a potential time for a good quote um lots of quotable stuff um i agree um okay sorry i just i oh i dropped my pen again um that pen is gonna get the best of you okay how has your musical taste changed over the years and what has remained the same
how has it changed and or how does it remain the same oh and or okay yeah well so like with my band obviously i sing but it's like my band's like there's a drummer there's a guitar player there's a bass there's saxophone there's like trumpets on things now there's you even have clarinet on some stuff you know there's keys and organs and i'm like man i'm doing everything that i wanted to do with the music that i listened to like you know if you watched old stevie wonder on a stage there's a full band supporting him all that motown stuff there's always that type of like instruments you hear in things um and when i first started singing here i was really lucky because we did motown music so they wanted to like make us the headliners and you know we had lined a few shows and things like that because i was playing that stuff so i was always so pumped that right when i got here the type of songs i was singing were the songs i grew up on um i don't really know what's different
because i also listen to a lot of hip hop and you know a lot of those people you know they're using a laptop or drum machines and stuff like that so i don't know if i'm doing anything new within music like the new stuff that is happening within music it's not always my favorite to be honest like i can understand and like vibe to it but it's not i won't make it i don't make that type of music right and i won't even like talk about specific genres and stuff like that but i feel like i'm kind of doing what i always grew up wanting to do and like listening to in a way it's just not the same era what's the last new artist you heard that kind of blew your mind like new within the five years can i say probably yeah yeah i'm going to go with like masego probably um ms sago's like trap soul but like on the stage you could have like trapped drums happening but he's playing a saxophone and he can play like every single instrument and there's keys and there's bass and there's a real drummer
but there's also a drum machine and there's like background singers and stuff like that but he was like one of those artists i listened to and i was like whoa i love this this is what i want to do it's like it's like a mix of old and new you know that's great so yeah he was like probably like one of like those people that i was like damn this is good and then i've always loved anderson pack but like i love anderson like i i enjoy what he does for music why he's so cool like just i love his style of like how he's like things or raps whatever it is but can hop on the drum kit and just kill that and he just is like so different his like style is like dope but i just feel like he just like stays himself and he doesn't care and that's how he does it cool yeah um i know you're a fan of uh what baslin's doing a lot of people are talking about baseline right now and saying he's going to blow up shut up boslin shout out to track um
what is it about baslin that you think is so awesome his team he has a fire team like there is hustlers in this industry and those people are hustlers like they all want to see him succeed and they're all good at different things and i think they stay in that lane and they just like lift him up like he's the artist but then you have your branding you have your video you have a natasha like you know he has a great manager like buck and stuff like that and there's a couple other people on his team that i haven't met yet but i just know he has a really good team here and i'm i believe he has a really good team in la um and you know and that's i think that's what it takes is you can't do it by yourself especially if you need to get big like you have to have support and you you can't do everything like you know you probably know it too like i wish i had more people that would hustle for me and stuff like that but i think it takes a really good team and i think that's why he's really lucky and he's good at what he does and i think it just shows so
yeah that's so great that's such a such a great answer and it's it's very consistent with a lot of stuff you've been talking about today you know finding a a framework a system of people that work together to create this stuff and there are so many jobs and that it's not just the singer it's not just the songwriter it's not just the drummer it's not just the manager it's all these people working together as a system i think vancouver is like the hardest place to kind of find a team because like you know imagine a team like his like they're already busy they don't have time for so many other people like especially if the product ain't there like what are you wasting your time for right but like you know i always get asked like hey kent do you know any managers and i'm like no and people like you should be a manager i'm like i'm not even ready to do that for myself like not for myself but like i i really have to hustle for myself in so many different ways i have to pay my own bills like you know i'm ready to try and help so much in the community but like it's so hard to be a manager because you
need somebody who's like you know passionate and somebody who wants to work for you and at the beginning they might not be asking you for money because they know down the road they can make you money that's going to get them paid right it's just like there's not a lot of people who have time to do that or even have the connections for it or anything right so right i think you would make a great manager but you're right you know just me i was like but i would want to dedicate at least 20 hours a week to somebody right like i would need to be able to like sit there and just like start calling and like figuring out more stuff for that particular artist right because if i'm working with a dj producer that's different than me working with a rapper you know if i'm working with a singer-songwriter i'm going for a different avenue for that person i'm like okay i can book you shows at these venues where with you i can only book you over here and with you i need to get you clients that pay you as a producer so like it's just they already know i would be good but let's just wait a while i'm gonna have to have my own business in the future i already told myself
how important is live performance to you oh my god it's so much better than like this digital world i've been lucky that because i work with music bc and um like hopefully i'll talk about that for like a moment but yeah with music bc like we run these events and this year we were able to finally have like one show in person but we had a black history month show we had an indigenous no we we did have an indigenous showcase but we also had an international women's day showcase and those were all like online so like we were the only ones in the room but the pride show we had that was fire like that was like at a venue it was sold out like everyone's screaming like i had goosebumps just by being around people like i felt weird but it was still one of those like being in the room in the energy of a room when you're performing is so much better than you performing to nobody you know like you can even feel it in the band like imagine you're performing to
know crowd and you're like you're done with odp and nobody says anything you're like cool cool but like it's just like one yeah it's just like it's so nice when they like made us cheer something and like there was actually an audience for that right it's so much better crowd interaction yeah after after 18 months of nothing um such a weird world um [Music] uh what's the best live performance you've ever seen like live in person yeah probably i'm gonna probably have to go with beyonce i'm pretty sure but i'm like i've been to so many shows i'm like okay yeah beyonce was really good for me but a couple years ago anderson pack was at the peony and i was like hiding in the stands because i was just holding two drinks i was like i'm gonna go up here but he went through the whole crowd like he did this thing where at one point he just was in the crowd and he like i
could tell like that would have made me lose my mind if i was down there like i would have just thrown my drinks and ran but like yeah i talked to so many people about it and i just like was like see that was dope like i like that he's not afraid of the crowd and stuff like that but beyonce just does like crazy stuff at her show she sings she's dancing i'm like how do you even breathe like i just i don't know how you're still breathing and singing some crazy notes but yeah she just like i know she makes me feel powerful so every time i've watched her i'm always like girl kudos to you when you write songs do you think about how it's gonna go over live or not sometimes yeah there's if i especially if i write like the upbeat songs like ones that i know is like a dancy track i always try to think like sometimes you know if i'm writing this hook and it's like catchy i get excited thinking about like oh my god i can make the crowd sing this part with me like there's two songs i've done where i was like super thinking like i was always like okay the
crowd the crowd yeah so yeah definitely for some and sometimes when you listen to like a pharrell track he's like i love her all you know like or like senorita with justin timberlake you know the end when he's like ladies yeah like you know that part i always think of that type of stuff when i'm writing it was clearly written for the live show right 100 i i hear that a lot in in michael jackson's stuff too like in thriller like you're like oh this was like designed to be like just killer live with all the questions yeah like oh for sure so great um i had a question for you what is music production music production it really depends on what but music production
is like the backbone to the track like i don't even know how to say it but like you know me i'm like a music producer there's so many of them right so it's like there's your bee maker or it's like the band who produces this track i always tell people i'm like i'm a producer and they're like oh really you make beats i'm like no no i don't make beats i'm in the room with you and i'm making sure everything is happening so if i don't like the bridge i could be like let's try to change this a little bit or like i can make the vocals sound better and things like that but you said what is music production so you didn't say what's a producer so yeah i'm gonna go the backbone of the track it's like it's yeah let's stop there before i think i love everything you said and and you also implied that it's some that it's the overseeing of the creation of the song too yeah connecting i love it shout out rick rubin a shadow beyonce by the way mentioned a number of times and didn't get a shout out yet um
my next question comes from a mutual friend of ours tamara edelman she said when you start your podcast i want you to ask your guests this question and what is that it is this shout out tam what has been your biggest career high and your biggest career challenge so far i think i'm in my eye right now to be honest um because i'm like yes i know i've been killing it i know that but like i think now i have so many more resources and i used to meet i worked at a school as you know i used to meet like emerging artists and that was really it i just met a lot of younger people that wanted to be in the industry and some older people but i met emerging artists that could be singers songwriters rappers producers anything right now i'm finally meeting industry professionals and now i see myself like being kind of at that level too right like i've been in the industry for five years but it
still feels like i'm kind of a rookie because of the people i'm meeting there's so much more above me but they've been in the industry for 10 plus years 15 years 20 years right but i'm finally at that stage where i'm meeting all these people so if i need to go to toronto i know so many more people i could go to montreal now like i feel very comfortable within what i could do with canada and i feel very good with what i could do for a lot of different communities especially in vancouver like bipod communities and different communities right but i just feel like there's a lot more i can offer now and with the company i work with you know we have resources and stuff and it's very important for us so like finally i'm at a stage where i'm helping now everybody and anybody like you don't need to come to school and waste money for things like i can connect you with a lot of different things for people you know like i just have all these resources um one of my lows is probably getting fired last year and not thinking i could have a career like not knowing what careers there were for me and like you
know i was one of those people that were like is there jobs in this industry like what jobs are there and what would i be good at but like i have a crazy resume like you know you don't have to think just because you did admissions like you you know it's like no no i ran events and i i brought in this much money a year and i could do xyz and then you know i did get my job because of my resume but like now that i know there's so many more people that are like is there jobs i'm like there's so many like you know you're like there's so many and you don't have to have like the craziest experience so that was one of my lows but it was like a hive that makes sense yeah like things happen for a reason and it had to happen to set me free to like get to where i needed to get to now right like it was meant to be that's amazing that's a great answer it's so funny to hear you say that because i you know it you were kind of it was a low for you but i knew it was i knew it was ultimately a high for you i could see that it was i knew it too though like when it happened i was like oof like you know but it's just like one of those things where you're like ugh i
work so hard for so many people that don't appreciate who you are and you're just like it's like a slop in the face it's a quick breakup but like i was good i love it um little inside information there for anybody who knows what we're talking about um to everyone who i love so much that like including time and all of them and christina and everybody yeah that's absolutely undercover um absolutely love those people yeah um do you want to take this time to talk more about musicbc you said you wanted to sort of talk about what you did there and what you're doing and i think that's a great idea if there's anything else you want to add about musicbc shout out musicbc yeah shout out musicbc and lindsay jimmy and emily um yeah so i'm their community engagement coordinator and so i get to like deal with the members bring them in um and make sure there's like good enough benefits for them so like there's tons of different discounts um
discounts like from ableton so like car rentals to you need some t-shirts and cds or vinyls like i have all those type of discounts um so that's not that that's not even the hard part or anything it's just making sure that people feel satisfied because you pay pretty much if you're an individual you pay like 60 for the year if you're a band you pay 100 so two of you can kind of take advantage of that but we have like so many online stuff too like you know we've run like a tick tock like master class youtube apple music has talked with us like um a website like bandzoogle who gives us a discount so if you want to create a website or an epk they have that available we always have these like online conversations we recently had like an educational series as well um i talked in it it was like power of diversity so like i was the moderator and there was speakers um there was one like on ableism there was one on disabilities there was you know like you learn so much like there's so many little things you learn about
within just listening and a lot of people are always like yeah there's no resources i'm like well are you like attending anything like you know i'm like there's so many things online for free like did you attend anything this year and they're like no i haven't i'm like okay well i don't know what to do like there's 20 things happening within the year for free for you you know so it's just like some of those little things but i always can send them to people too right so that's always the nice part is is there's that there's showcase opportunities there's so many showcases that happen within the year um and you can sign up for it and you know if you meet the criteria you could possibly get it we had some grants like sound on grants travel grants and then i'm running a program right now called jump start so there's about like nine consultants um like more like branding um a r like you know raquel's one christina's one for like general information um there's somebody who runs a label and there's just so many different types of people on this list but you get a free hour consultation with them
if you want one foot to let me know um there's a branding one in there um but yeah so you get a free hour consultation and we pay for it but it's just like we just started it right now and we will be adding more consultants but we just have to start with this nine and it's been going really good and the feedback's been really nice i think i can tell people want more of course um but you know we're just like the hub for music within bc right like you know if you need resources like if you even if you follow our newsletter that's already good enough like if you don't want to get the membership yet at least follow the newsletter so you know what's happening and then later if you start to realize like yeah i should support and put you know 60 of my money into this because i'm going to get something out of it like then of course do it right like there's so much happening there but it's been so nice i get to help like curate some shows and we just like worked with bad muralfest we had a showcase and had six different artists that was so nice and my team is like amazing so i i can't complain my boss is like a superstar and knows a
lot and i love picking her brain i love hearing her stories and that's been fun and yeah so it's been good you must just be meeting so many people in the community so many people so many people so nice i love it because i'm always going to be emerging artists right you know what i mean always always always always going to meet new artists all the time i'm an artist myself i always meet people it's just nice now to finally meet like other companies and figure out like who they are and then that way i can help these artists now be like go there like go email that person like you should be reaching out to them you fit them so well like you know there's been some opportunities where i've helped artists and they've gotten some good stuff out of it so great great job for you thanks um [Music] so let's talk a little bit about your methods so when you write
and produce music where do you start like how do you start writing a song when you approach it uh two ways so sometimes i can just starts like singing a song and like i'll start to like just voice note it and then because in case i say like any lyrics and then i want to keep it and then i'll just use that theme and just continue to write i'm a pretty fast writer when it comes to things like easy cheesy easy cheesy pop r b um but yeah so either i can just like do that and then i also can hear like what the piano notes could be if i wanted it but i can always just send it to also like anyone and they can just figure it out but otherwise that or i like when somebody sends me they can send me an instrumental that's fine that's a whole track sure but you can always just send me like piano cards of a full song but like you pretty much have to like have the verse in there with a pre with a chorus because like that's how i'm writing
right so yeah so there's two ways do you ever use like temp nonsense lyrics and just have a melody that you don't know what it's saying yet yeah yeah i've done that but then i kind of try to come up with lyrics so i can like see like what works like word wise you know what i mean because then sometimes if i come up with melodies i like i'm like oh what was i trying to think there though like there's a melody there for a reason because my brain's doing a lot like i'm like thinking of a theme so i try to like bring in the theme into my voice note a bit so i can like start to write like that because if i just do melodies i get like very like what was i even trying to do there do you ever record ideas on your phone or do you record them on your computer wish i could show you my voice notes i would just be like um yeah i do and you know sometimes i come up with a melody without words but i'll first i'll record right and say i'm like okay that was a cool verse i'll end that recording the next one i'll hum like
whatever i want for the pre and i don't need lyrics or something and i could do that with a chorus too and but like i like to like kind of start a verse with like whatever like blabber chat like i don't know what i'm saying but just like making it up i'm like yeah blabber chad should be the name of your next track i thought that was fire i was like did i just say blabber chat that sounds like a cool like podcast good idea um cool so what's your favorite part starting a song or finishing it um it's actually a good question um i like being like halfway that makes sense like i love when i have a first pre-course already i'm like yes now this next part's easy because my course just repeats and if i want my pre can repeat so all i have to figure out is this first but then and there's always the bridge and then i always have to think about it like a different vibe for the bridge but
i don't i don't find that hard i just love having like the first half done is writing a song like a puzzle or a challenge it can be especially if it's chords i'm not comfortable with remember when we're talking about people that know too much music theory that type of stuff like that's where my brain is like oh but i always say like you have to challenge yourself right like if i'm just making music well i mean a lot of people do this but i like to challenge myself in music in a way too like if it's if it's too easy it's not challenging at that point um but yeah i do like like the comfortable part of chords like i love your typical type of chords right you mentioned easy cheesy music are you kind of just a sucker for pop music like i am like i just like no i don't like pop typical music i like like r b like okay but i feel like there's like a typical r b though yeah i love typical r b for sure hands
down i love that but like pop i get kind of like uh this is gonna be on the radio right r b never makes it to the radio so it's like it's my music i get to listen to this it's me in my headphones once you put on the radio you're ruining the song for me i get it but then i do want more people to be on the radio so like that's the thing because we live in canada we never get like a variety of songs we just get the same 20 songs so it's like if you're gonna put that one r b song in there it's gonna be the same one that plays six times a day every day for the next two years so that's why i'm like if they ruined soccer okay that made that totally makes sense yeah um is there any technology that has changed your approach to making music uh like from the beginning i never use like pro tools if that makes if that's like what you're talking about but yeah now i'm in the studio like yeah i don't know
my reverb names but i know my pro tools like when i'm watching pro tools i can like sometimes i want to be the one on this on the computer i'm like of course but like they're so good too so it's like i'm not gonna do it but i feel bad that i understand it sometimes too because i'm like can you go back please or like can you do this and just now you know it but i i love pro tools it was honestly one of the easiest ones to learn yeah ableton on the other hand i just can't even can't even open it you just need another lesson and i'll get you on track i guarantee it i need like five i don't need one i need a few it's just that you already know pro tools and so you're sort of committed to the arrangement view but i don't open any of these daws fyi like i'm just going to tell you right now i don't do that i again i hire there's people that do it but when i'm in the studio watching people i'm like i could do it too yeah but it's nice that i know it like it's honestly a blessing because totally
if they go for lunch i'm like do you mind if i just like sit there and like comp my vocals like you know like so cool just like anything like that but that i love that i know it like that's my number one thing i'm like i'm so happy i learned how to use pro tools it's kind of like music theory where you want to be sort of you know it but it's not like completely out of your mind but it's not also the first thing in your mind too you can kind of go back and forth between it it's great it's super powerful i mean i you know back in the day with tape machines you know the artist the singer wouldn't know how to use a tape machine so now the fact that you can actually see the technology it's great that you can kind of be in be in that world yeah and if honestly like if there's artists out there that like don't know how to do that but you're so good at singing it's like one of the things you should challenge yourself is probably learning how to do a little bit of that because like i can talk the talk in the studio 100 percent yep i'm not gonna be like on the compression can you turn me two to the left i'm not about that but and it's not that difficult right
like when you learn about it like one of our one of our favorite phrases is pointing to the console to a new person and saying like a mixer and saying once you know one channel you know you know all the channels which is literally all the same and they're always like whoa and i'm like it's a great that was your spot like i was looking at that like oh cool i'm about to take control of a spaceship and it's like no you're not you're just taking control of one one strip and you're like cool totally true totally true um okay so we talked about the fast track assignment which is you tell us one thing anything that you do well and you do so many things well but pick one and then just give us a little uh mini assignment few steps that we can follow to do that thing and be more like you okay so my category is networking love it um and i'll just tell you because it's very important as an artist or honestly in any creative industry like whoever is
listening to this you don't have to be in music like you know in any creative industry networking is very important um but one like make sure you step outside of your comfort zone you know um shout out to raquel v for teaching me that but like she said you have to get uncomfortable to get comfortable right so you have to step outside of that comfort zone so it's like that is true like if i'm so comfortable all the time am i growing right so step outside of your comfort zone like if you're a hip-hop artist go support you know a different artist and you know just go support each other and in that way like if you're afraid of going to the show because you don't know anyone like just do it like you will start to once you start going to more things you start to know everybody um and so number two was pretty much for me like go to events that you haven't been to before like support other people meet other people that way three if you're interested in collaborating with people reach out to artists on social media good old nardwar shout out to nardwar shout out he always says like you know when i would sometimes want to have an interview with
these artists i would dm them on instagram and that's how i get my interview and he's like a lot of people thought it was weird but he's like that's how i get some of my best interviews and it's like yeah like reach out to some of these local acts if you want to work with them and you don't have to do it in person i've had some of my best songwriting sessions this year through zoom so i'm like you just have to be able to like want to do the work and if you're good at what you do you're going to be able to do the work you know like so if you feel like working out with working with some of these artists reach out to them on social and then figure out your like local like music communities like there's so many different ones and a lot of them have newsletters right like we were talking about music bc before like you should have that newsletter in your email every week because we were telling you about grants and funding that you can apply for we're telling you about shows and stuff like that we're telling you about artists we're telling you about so many different programs but it's not just us there's so many like local communities here and like not just vancouver because again like i do hope this reaches everywhere but it's like
figure out what it is in your city and follow them on social media follow their newsletter reach out to them and have a meeting with them if you need to and figure out how they can like help you like figure out what resources they have for you because there's so many resources in every country and a lot of cities and stuff like that and people are just like not aware at all so that is some networking stuff because like i always tell people like you know i talk to them once in an email the next thing you know i meet them in a show next thing you know i know they're an artist and the next thing you know i'm booking them to get a paid gig like you know it's just there's just ways that things happen so cool so if if they're not if somebody's listening and they're not from vancouver or not from british columbia what would they look for this would be like a singer songwriter musicians uh yeah um support network in their city yeah association yeah i would say so for like anybody
within canada there is a provincial music team in each in each province so there's an alberta music sas music manitoba music ontario music all the way till the end um if you're outside of canada put it on your instagram like throw it up on your story and be like anyone know of any like music companies i can like reach out to or or just start to like follow and stuff like that like start putting stuff on your social media people have answers do your own research and google it to like local music events or like i always write that because i'm always looking for like newsletter articles and i'm always writing like vancouver music events or vancouver music and then i'm just seeing what pops up because there's also blogs that write stuff so you'll find blogs online you'll find event pages online so you just got to start like googling which is our best friend your city's music scene that's so great i love that um i've just got a question that i don't
have written down but it just sort of occurred to me if somebody wanted to be an artist manager if that was something that interested them what do you think what what would they do like how would they get started i know you're not a manager but what would you be like i would say find the artist that you would dream to work with in the city like so say it's like you know somebody in victoria bc like they were like i really want to be a manager well is there an act in victoria that you think you can hop on and do you have the time to do it for free as like an intern almost at that point and start to figure out what you can offer them because there's a lot of people that are like i'm so good at social media i'm good at marketing it's like but i want to be in the music scene i'm like have you ever tried to collaborate with an artist and see what you can do for them like free pro bono like you know like what can you do for that person do it and then show them that you can do it and the next thing you know they can vouch for you when you want to do it for the next person you know like you or christina can always vouch for me if i need it right like you just have to prove yourself to people at the end of the day
yeah i agree and start off with it's like do free free photo shoots for five artists next thing you know they're telling their friend they're doing it for really cheap for a hundred bucks and that band's like 100 bucks holy [ __ ] we'll pay for that right easy part just me easy work i'm totally kidding it's not easy until you're ready for it what are you currently obsessed with um within anything anything like not food no it could be food what what food are you currently obsessed with anything like literally um i don't even know what i'm obsessed with wait i'm actually going to talk about food okay go for it okay i'm really obsessed with my coconut yogurt with berries and oatmeal i love coconut yogurt it's so good coconut greek yogurt oh coconut greek yogurt yes yes like the container i can see it just
over there it's like that's i think we've talked about this before that's basically ice cream right like to me that tastes like ice cream okay so now i've been like chopping up fruit and like putting it in there with like this like nut mix a bit but why is the yellow raisin so good in it i don't know it's weird but i'm gonna tell you it is so good like i'll take it to work and i like try to savor it and the second i make it i look at it like it's art i've inspired a friend to literally get into this too it's yeah so if i'm obsessed with something it's like i dream of that like when i wake up i'm like please wait till eleven before you eat it i'm literally when this is over i'm going to the store and getting coconut greek yogurt because that's all i can think about now it's so good i was going to pretend and say like you know i'm going to have a bowl after this but i need to save it for tomorrow because i like having it at work it's like it's like having dessert in the morning yeah it's like it's nice but i'm not it's mine
uh shout out coconut greek yogurt it's the best seriously shout out to coconut creatures that's the best please sponsor me after this okay thanks yeah yeah i wonder if we can make that happen um what do you still want to learn just me a lot ableton piano guitar like even more like within myself like outside of just like the instruments and stuff like i talk a lot so sometimes like you know just learn when to speak doesn't have i know it doesn't matter but it's like it doesn't also have to like always be about me like you know some of these conversations sometimes i catch you know myself or other people like i can see like i try to sometimes twist it so it comes back to me so i look good but it's like i don't need to do that sometimes you know like not necessary but i don't do it a lot but i catch myself i'm like oh you talked a bit too much about yourself there so just like those
little things like you know i'm a listener but i want to be a better listener sometimes too right so that's what's important i don't does not need to i don't even like it being about me sometimes i'm like why why'd you try to turn it back to you like you know it's probably because you love to make people feel comfortable too and part of that is being engaging and talking i know but it's you know something like town like you know she's she's taught me like say somebody's like oh i went to this festival and you're oh i've been to that festival before yeah i was so fun i did this i did that it's like i don't need to do that let me hear why you like that festival why do you want to go to the festival dope any artists you want to see cool oh my god yes tell me more like and then later i could be like yeah i've actually been to it yeah but like it does yeah you know what i mean that's so funny you say that because i i went through the same thing as you the i wanted to do more of that more listing and less talking although i like talking um
and i i totally practiced that and maybe started learning that in with tam and then continue doing that and i'll be honest with you that's one of the reasons why i started this is because i can be mostly the listener in this right smart but it's so difficult like even when i do this like every word you said like there was one time i think like i got a story for everything no i talked for five minutes and you'll say something for one second i'm like yeah let him talk like but the thing is five years ago when she told me this it's like i was very like aware of that like so i was like getting better at it it just feels like lately i'm almost like dropping back a little bit of that and i'm like stop doing that it's so annoying too like just be a damn listener like i already talk as i said so much so right yeah that's great such a good one it's great um i'm with you i'm learning that too
what's more like mental health is very important and especially like well not even especially in this industry just especially in life it's very important so just like making sure i'm taking care of that and like i don't need to be afraid to find like i can go see a therapist if i need to you know like we have all these resources in front of us too and i just like need to make sure like stuff i preach to people i have to preach it right that's great yeah uh what in your opinion makes a great song the song like i was like i don't even some i've been asked this before i'm like i don't know the song just has to be good like it just has to a catchy something that's catchy but the thing is we all don't like the same music like you know what i mean so whatever is good to me might not be good to you but for me it's like i have to like the production of the song whether that's the whole band playing the beat whatever the production is in the track
um a good a good vocalist like i also like enjoying the i like hearing what they're saying so there's certain hip-hop i don't like as much i enjoy the beat i get that it's fun but i like an artist that i can understand the lyrics to and i like it if it's a story so like i'm a big fan for j cole and like kendrick martin because i can hear what they're saying the whole time right but it's just for me it takes like it depends if it's a sad song i hope it relates to me like is it relatable like are your lyrics good um and then there's like some cheesy songs like it's like you know i like i like the good chorus i like the good hook i like if the hook is like it feels like it's the hook you know what i mean but i feel like that's hard because a good song for me is different than everyone else that's great great answers i love it um all right just wrapping uh up here before we get into um where the listeners can find out more about you do you have any sort of uh advice
for up-and-coming artists or music producers yeah like i think i said it before but like network wherever you are um if you're like stuck at home and you're not meeting people like i'm not sure if you use social media as something but like find them on your social media find people in your city um reach out to those companies and reach out to randoms and reach out to other producers and collaborate with other people like you have to collaborate with the other people for a bit if even if you don't like it it's like well then you're not gonna meet people like you know and that's something you're gonna have to step outside of that comfort zone um and if you live you know where i live you can reach out to me but try to find yourself a mentor if you can and maybe try to go to conferences that happen you know there's always a lot of things happening fly to another city if you need to and collaborate with somebody and save money and find some of your favorite you know
low-key producers or singers and try to work with them um but yeah and just like educate yourself and try to get better why do you think it's so important to collaborate with other people why can't they just sit and work by themselves with their laptop um i don't like are you a one-man show like do you know what i mean like are you are you a producer and you're gonna like sing on your track and do all that then that's cool but if you're gonna need an artist you're gonna have to work with somebody else right um and if you're doing it for fun that's different but if you're doing this for a career then you better get your [ __ ] rolling now that i was a lot of cuss but yeah you better you better work with people and other artists and you better you gotta network you gotta collaborate you gotta meet people it's just it's how this industry works it feels like and it's just how you get successful what should they learn to master whatever it is that you want to master whatever your craft is i can't i can't
tell somebody what to master because then now i should be telling myself i should master producing but i'm still like no i want to master songwriting you know i already mastered let's say singing and they're still in my head so much more space for me to grow there like you know what i need right i should go take vocal lessons but people are like you can sing i'm like the best singers take vocal lessons every day like no i should take vocal lessons but you know if you're already really good at something you do if you already feel like you're at 80 at something and you will just grow by the year what's your next thing right like what's my next thing is i should be songwriting with more people and i don't need to be the vocalist on it i just want to be the lyric person on it right so figure out what's the next thing that you feel like you could do say you're at like 50 with something then let's start mastering that one great i love it um i've been obsessed with audio books lately like i have a problem with audible i've just been like i think i saw i have 99 audiobooks in my audible library like
that's a legit problem do you listen to audio books do you read books do you have any recommendations for us anything inspiring no do you hear me nope i know i don't i do not i am no i don't i i'm not reading right now and i don't do the podcast thing either right now either it's really hard for me no it's pretty long podcasts for me and i like have a sh i just if they were like shorter i'm down for that but i am sorry i can't even think of what to suggest except for like youtube i want to tell people go watch tiny desks get inspired by tiny desks that's great okay what is tiny desks oh my god well i think i've seen that i think oh my it's like performances right yeah like in like it's like a library it looks like it's in dc yeah i've seen it no oh my god i'm tripping out but anyways there's so many good artists on it cool like so many like right now my
favorite one is jasmine sullivan just because r b singer like but there's so anderson packs is like pretty high up there yeah there's so many good ones though like honestly it hurts my soul there's uh it's my favorite thing i watch it every day for my job yeah that's great that's so cool uh all right so where where can my listeners work on our listeners because we're co-creating this podcast together you and i where can our listeners find out more about you should they go to instagram yeah i'm gonna give a couple instagrams i'm gonna say follow my band at stella soul stella s-t-e-l-l-a soul music and then me is at underscore kentia underscore so k-e-n-t-u-i-a underscore on instagram and yeah i feel like those are the two things and i'm gonna plug in my work at
music underscore bc if you're in british columbia but if you're not don't worry just message me on instagram if you want to but yeah that's uh that's the platforms i'm going to go for that's awesome and spotify my my music too stella soul musical soul music okay stella sold music or stella sorry okay cool my newest song is stella soul u but there will be more but thank you so much for doing this i i've told you this a million times but i'll i'll tell you again you are my favorite person who ever walked the earth you're the best um thank you so much for doing this it was great a lot of awesome information are you gonna are you gonna listen to this podcast or are you gonna watch this listen and cringe i'll probably listen to more of the other ones more so i really like your guests but uh i might cringe if i hear myself i might be like oh i have to listen on low volume when i hear my voice i get it i'm gonna be the same way and i'm gonna be in all the episodes it's terrible why did i do this
um well shout out to you listening in the future yeah shout out to me listening in the future and you are also the best i hope you do know that and i'm so proud of you for doing all this so good job thank you is there anything else you'd like to say to the listeners no just shouts out to future and um i hope you follow whatever you need to follow and whatever your gut is doing and telling you to do go for it all the healthy choices go for it um and yeah that's really it just go do you i love it everybody that's kentya peace out [Music]
